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That was great.I have 16 juv kigoma at 30mm just over 1inch. I believe the ones to grow bigger first will be the males?is that so.My aim is to keep all the females.

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How comfortable are they with you holding them out of the water like that? Do they struggle? I haven't held mine yet since I'm afraid they will be too afraid since they zip around whenever they see movement.


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How comfortable are they with you holding them out of the water like that? Do they struggle? I haven't held mine yet since I'm afraid they will be too afraid since they zip around whenever they see movement.
They definitely don't like it. Fish can "fin" you if you aren't cautious about how you hold them. Also, you need to be careful not to injure their fins when handling them, plus not spoil their slime coating. Wash hands prior to touching them. I try to hold them either just in front of or just behind their little side fins (forgot correct terminology for these fins). My female has flipped out of my hand before onto the carpet or back into the bucket before. I don't grip too hard for fear of injuring her. Their dorsal (top) fin is the one that needs to be held down firmly because that's the one that can stick you.


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very helpful topic Allen, thanks


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 Post subject: Re: How to sex / vent Frontosa fish venting / sexing w/Pictu
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I find it's best to grab them when their still submersed, as they are much more likely to raise their pre-dorsal in the net out of the water IME. Sometimes I can gently push down their predorsal from front to back, like petting down a cowlick, but a determined fish is not so easy, and this is when it's best to dunk them and have another go IME ;)


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very very clear and simple explanation.... thanks a lot for that valuable info....

when time to sex my fish come I will use this way

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..nice posr.. thanks for info....:)


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Question i have 6 Burundi what happens when they get bigger and only 2 are female. one of them always chases the others away he is the biggest does this mean he is a male.

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they have some mooning i was told it will go away i sure hope so


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When a group grows up together, the biggest and most controlling would most likely be the alpha male. It may be hard to tell at that size, but that bigger guy might be your alpha.

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If they breed and they are brother and sister because like I said before I bought them from pet store only because he has very nice cichlids.so what would be the outcome fish having 3 eyes


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lol, could be...I hear the likelihood of defects is raised when a sibling group is bred together. If you want to breed them, get rid of the biggest male down the road and replace him with one from different stock...and then you might want to do the same with the beta. That way you bring in new stock and the likelihood of mutant fish is decreased, haha. I'm going to do that with mine soon, as the females are almost at breeding size.

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There have been many debates regarding this issue. It is widely believed that inbreeding does not cause mutations.

Most mutations can be associated with bad/defective genes. If the same defective genes are recombined by immediate family members, you may see an increase in that particular bad gene coming to reality and intern causing some form of mutation.

History will show that many cultures practiced inbreeding to preserve the "good" genetic bloodlines.

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Really very surprised but happy so I don't have to give up some fish thank you


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Definitely go with what Allen says, he knows way more than me. One benefit of replacing your large males down the road is breeding time though. Males take longer to become breeding ready (3 yrs) and the females are ready earlier...so if you replace a large male who isn't ready to breed with an older breeding aged male, you can breed quicker. But you have alot of time before you need to think about that!

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